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1中景
深灰色背景左侧分布白色文字，右侧通过动态遮罩显露戴墨镜的Eric操作浅色手机。2.97
2全景
长镜头
室内访谈场景，身穿白色衬衫的主持人手持手机对着镜头介绍嘉宾Eric。Welcome to "On the Spot with OPPO," where we connect you with inspiring entrepreneurs and innovators making their mark. We're here in Barcelona for the Find X9 Series launch, and it's a city that celebrates12.73
3中景
戴着墨镜、身穿黑色无袖上衣且胸口别着白色立体花饰的Eric正在专注倾听。creativity and innovation.1.77
4全景
全景展示两名男性相对而坐进行交谈，中间摆放着一盏暖黄色的艺术台灯。The perfect setting to talk about innovation, craftsmanship and the future of beauty.4.83
5中景
Eric戴着深色墨镜、身穿黑色无袖上衣专注倾听主持人介绍。Our guest today is a designer who transcends1.87
6全景
长镜头
全景镜头下，主持人手持平板电脑向Eric提出关于时尚与创作启蒙的问题。boundaries between fashion, art and design. A true architect of beauty. Eric, let's start from the beginning. As a teenager, when the world was full of possibilities, what first drew you to the world of fashion and creation?17.57
7中景
Eric面向镜头微笑回应主持人的介绍，表情自然放松。Thanks for the introduction, Daniel.2.77
8全景
全景展示两人交谈，Eric向主持人表达感谢，主持人手持手机倾听。And thanks for having me with you in this OPPO event. Well, you know what, at teenage,5.47
9中景
Eric在谈话时右手伴随着指指头部的动作，讲述自己的创意指引。I had one guide, one guide in my head that was creativity.4.00
10全景
全景镜头，Eric讲述自己对创意过程的追求，主持人专注倾听。I wanted to be in a creative process whatever it is. I think I've always cherished fashion.8.87
11中景
Eric右手托腮，陷入回忆，讲述自己最初想设计汽车的想法。But most of all, I wanted to be in a creative process so I could design cars.6.07
12中景
全景下，Eric用丰富的手势讲述自己为母亲设计衣服的经历。I was designing my mom's clothes, without making them, but it was fun seeing, designing, imagining her in clothes. But I love to design the cars.9.73
13中景
Eric边说边比划，总结青少年时期对创意的开放愿景。So, mainly, teenage was quite an open vision3.67
14全景
长镜头
全景画面，主持人接话提问Eric第一次想为母亲设计衣服时的年龄。of what creation and creativity in general could be, without setting myself on fashion specifically. And how old were you back then when you first wanted to design your mom's clothes?13.03
15近景
Eric双手在胸前比划，回答自己在十岁前就开始设计衣服。Oh yeah, before ten, I was already designing my mom's clothes.3.60
16中景
全景展示两人交谈，主持人感叹这对他来说很自然。So it's very natural for you to... Well...3.93
17中景
Eric手部轻微动作，提到自己很幸运有一位美丽的母亲。I'm lucky enough to have a mom that is still very beautiful,3.43
18全景
长镜头
全景镜头下，Eric自豪地讲述与优雅母亲外出的感受。but I guess, well, she's really beautiful and elegant. And I was very proud to go around with her.11.43
19中景
Eric讲述自己出身于普通家庭，并配合摊手动作。And well, we're from a very modest condition.6.77
20全景
全景画面中，Eric表示母亲总是街上最优雅的人。But yet, she was always the most elegant person in the street.4.67
21中景
Eric双手轻抬，表达优雅与金钱无关的观点。People don't always remember, but it's not about money.2.73
22全景
全景镜头，Eric继续阐述优雅是一种心态和内在的品质。The allure, the elegance, it's a state of mind. It's something you have.9.10
23中景
Eric双手合十，强调优雅不能靠购买高档商品获得。It's no such thing as becoming elegant just because you're buying4.27
24全景
全景中主持人认同地附和“它源于内在”，Eric表示赞同。even a very high quality product. It comes from within. Yes.6.60
25中景
Eric微微转头倾听主持人的下一个提问。So, Eric, you studied at prestigious schools and worked in iconic houses,3.07
26全景
全景镜头，主持人询问吸引Eric进入羽毛工艺领域的关键时刻。such as Hermès and Chanel. What is the pivotal moment that drew you specifically to the art of feather craft?9.73
27中景
Eric微微点头，表示这是一个有趣的问题并开始回忆。So, yes, that's an interesting question because I used to answer that it was quite like, when we say in French,8.20
28中景
全景下，Eric谈到通过多年的工作和采访有了新的感悟。par hasard, you know, or maybe luck. And then I found out through the years, working, giving interviews. So, actually, interviews are always interesting.9.67
29中景
Eric用手指点着侧脸，说明采访促使他回顾自己的人生。Because they push you to really go through your life,4.93
30全景
长镜头
全景镜头中，Eric深刻地表达每种境遇背后都有其意义。and understand what you've been doing and why sometime, and understand that behind every situation there is meaning.11.17
31中景
Eric开始讲述关于羽毛的非常具体的个人故事。My very specific story about the feathers is that I always thought that I met feathers4.97
32全景
长镜头
全景展示Eric讲述第一次接触羽毛是在小时候去教堂时。when I met Mr. Lemarié, the feather craft master in France, that taught me everything I know. But in reality, my first contact with the feathers, I was going to church,15.60
33中景
Eric眼神专注，回忆自己还是个很小的小孩时的情景。and I was a very small kid.5.17
34全景
全景中，Eric讲述自己当时对画有天使的画作非常着迷。And I was obsessed with this painting with angels.4.47
35中景
Eric双手在脸庞比划，形容自己当时专注于画中天使的翅膀。And I was looking at them, and focusing on this very specific thing5.37
36中景
全景镜头，Eric继续讲述翅膀让天使与众不同。that would make them be different from us, the wings. And I always thought as a kid,7.40
37中景
Eric指向前方，表达孩童时期认为自己属于长翅膀的一类人。"I think this is my people.3.30
38全景
长镜头
全景下，Eric张开双手表达觉得他们忘了给自己安上翅膀。And they forgot me here, and they forgot to give me my wings. And I always thought that one day, I would have back those wings.12.77
39中景
Eric双手手心向上，坦言这个想法虽然可怕，但思考了多年。I know it's scary, but I spent years thinking that maybe, if I would dare just let go6.20
40全景
全景中，Eric用手势比划着无所畏惧地跳跃，寻找翅膀。and jump out somewhere without fear to lose anything, meaning life,8.73
41中景
Eric双手做出出现的手势，幻想翅膀会由此出现。the wings would appear.3.20
42全景
全景镜头，Eric无奈地摊手，表示自己显然从未敢尝试。And obviously I never dared. So I decided that5.13
43中景
Eric手部微抬，讲述决定在所有事情上都要更接近天空。I would go closer to the sky in everything I would do.3.77
44全景
长镜头
全景中，Eric解释这就是为什么他最终在机场工作并变得有条理。That's how I ended up working at the airport. At Charles de Gaulle. That's why I'm so organized. When I go to the airport, that was how I knew how to deal with companies, with the luggage, because I know what the process behind is. Because I was the guy.17.50
45中景
Eric用手势比划办理托运，生动描述自己曾经的工作。just drop your luggage at the check-in. And you won't care, you just, "Oh! 24, 25 kilos, fine." "Oh, not fine."5.57
46中景
全景镜头，Eric继续讲述机场行李搬运工的职责。Because there is a guy there that will carry your bag8.77
47中景
Eric指着自己，强调自己当时就是那个搬运行李的家伙。from the track to something else. And I was that guy.3.70
48全景
全景中，主持人惊讶地回应，Eric确认这是他的暑期工。A handler! Yeah! As a teenager in summer. Some of those summer jobs.9.80
49中景
Eric单手置于胸前，解释这对他而言是接近鸟类的途径。And it was for me, a way to be close to what was the closest element to the birds.6.67
50中景
长镜头
全景下，Eric双手挥舞，讲述鸟类在天空飞翔，离天使更近。Birds were the one that were dealing with the air, in the sky. So obviously closer to the angels.9.97
51中景
Eric双手交叉握在身前，遗憾地表示自己无法在巴黎和鸟做朋友。So I could not really make friends with many birds in Paris.4.20
52中景
长镜头
全景镜头，Eric幽默地抱怨鸽子不仅不带他飞，还会拉屎在他身上。Pigeons would not let me go fly with them. So there will probably be more pooing on my shoes or my clothes.10.77
53中景
Eric摊开双手，说明因此决定去戴高乐机场工作。So I decided to go the other way and I went to Charles de Gaulle and worked there.5.37
54全景
长镜头
全景中，Eric边比划边描述驾驶行李车去飞机旁的情景。And I could drive these little cars that carry all the luggage, to drive them to the airplane. And when I was next to these huge machines,12.20
55中景
Eric双手夸张地比划，表达当时对飞机设计的着迷。I was kind of fascinated because the actual design of a plane,4.63
56中景
全景下，Eric分享从飞机中学到了机翼是有弹性的自然法则。I could not even imagine how close we could be from nature study by doing these things. And that's how I learned, for example, that the wings of the plane are flexible.9.30
57中景
Eric双手轻放，补充说否则机翼在空中会断裂。Because in the air, otherwise they would break.3.43
58全景
全景镜头，Eric顺势谈到因为渴望飞跃，所以喜欢某些运动。So then in sports, for example,4.17
59中景
Eric头部微晃，表达自己热爱一切能让他跳跃的事物。I loved everything that would make me jump.5.43
60全景
长镜头
全景中，Eric配合手势讲述滑冰时最爱练习跳跃和旋转。So I did ice skating. And believe me, my best exercise was jumping and jumping, and turning on myself. And everything that would make me jump11.37
61中景
Eric头偏向一侧，微笑着说在空中让他感到快乐。and being in the air was happy.3.27
62全景
全景镜头，Eric讲述最终自己选择了学习时尚。And in the end, I chose fashion for the studies,4.27
63中景
Eric神情变得认真，提到在学习时面临着一些困难。and I had to face something a bit difficult and then,4.20
64全景
全景中，Eric讲述年轻时想成为设计师等角色的愿望。younger, I wanted to be a designer, stylist, whatever.8.20
65中景
Eric头微垂，坦承自己当时非常不擅长画画。I was very bad at drawing.2.20
66全景
全景画面，两人对这段往事相视大笑，主持人表示他现在改变了。Yeah, I was very bad. But no, I'm not anymore. Okay I've got that, you've changed. Thank god.8.17
67中景
Eric摊开手，讲述当时班级里的竞争非常激烈。But I was. I mean, in my classroom,3.60
68全景
长镜头
全景镜头，Eric双手合十，讲述自己被学校录取时的惊讶。we have this huge competition because they take very little people, amount of people every year. And when I got received and they accepted me,11.17
69中景
Eric手部交叠，表示没料到自己会表现得那么差。the last thing I was expecting is to be that bad.4.37
70全景
长镜头
全景中，Eric坦言必须非常努力，因为有些技巧需要不断练习。I mean, so I had to work really hard. Because there are things that are within you and are things that are technically that you just need to work on and on.13.57
71中景
Eric双手摊开，阐述最初的弱点后来如何发生了转变。But what was first a weakness,3.87
72全景
全景镜头下，Eric肯定地说这个弱点后来成为了优势。became a strength.1.43
73中景
Eric双手交替比划，解释自己必须通过使用色彩来补偿画工。Because of course, I had to compensate, and my way to compensate was to use colors6.33
74中景
长镜头
全景中，Eric激情地描述自己对纹理、结构和3D制作的着迷。and be fascinated by textures and structures, making, 3D. So that's where it started. And obviously,13.50
75中景
Eric双手做着揉捏的动作，强调自己专注于纹理、3D和色彩。as focusing on textures, 3D and colors4.00
76全景
全景镜头，Eric指出自己在这方面比那些擅长线条的人做得更好。much more than the others, that could just be so good at having lines.4.23
77中景
Eric用手指着手腕，表达自己想分享材料的感性与性感。I wanted to share the sensibility2.47
78全景
全景下，Eric双手摊开，形容自己把任何东西都想象成布料。and the sensuality of anything that you could imagine as a fabric.8.70
79中景
Eric双手做托举状，开始谈论追求极致的服装工艺。And then, of course, in terms of excellency,3.90
80全景
全景镜头，Eric提到高级定制中的刺绣和装饰工艺。meaning clothing with excellency, we think embroidery, embellishment,6.50
81中景
Eric顺着话题，自然地引出了羽毛工艺的加入。and then obviously feathers came in,3.63
82中景
全景中，Eric坦言自己起初并不想学羽毛工艺，只视其为装饰。but I didn't want to learn this. They were part of this embellishment system. So one day, I got invited8.10
83中景
Eric调整坐姿，讲述自己在黎巴嫩受邀参加展览的经历。to be part of an exhibition, in Lebanon.7.63
84全景
全景镜头下，Eric说明当时的项目是将尽可能多的材料混入刺绣。And the design project I had was to mix in my embroidery as many materials as possible.9.57
85近景
Eric双手合十再分开，讲述自己把羽毛放在了设计图上。I put the feathers on these drawings,4.63
86全景
全景中，Eric讲述由此遇到了一位赞助该活动并管理鸵鸟农场的女士。and that's how I got to meet a woman that was sponsoring that event, and that would be in charge of8.17
87中景
Eric提到那位女士来自南非的鸵鸟农场。ostrich farm from South Africa.2.90
88全景
全景展示Eric用手势比划着人生第一次见到那么巨大的鸵鸟羽毛。And so she gave me ostrich feathers. It was the first time I was seeing ostrich feathers, so big.7.60
89中景
Eric微微转头，表示这是他第一次真正接触羽毛。And that was my first contact with feathers.2.77
90全景
长镜头
全景镜头，Eric讲述这位女士碰巧是Lemarié先生的朋友并引荐了他。And she happened to be a friend of Mr. Lemarié. And she introduced me to him right away when she saw what I was doing without any knowledge of the feather craft.10.50
91中景
Eric讲述Lemarié先生决定成为他的导师。And he decided to be my mentor.3.57
92全景
全景中，主持人询问Eric当时是否觉得这是命中注定。And that's how it all started. So it was a very pivotal moment. But back then, did you find that,9.07
93中景
Eric倾听着主持人关于“命中注定”的提问。"Okay, this is what I meant to do."2.33
94全景
长镜头
全景画面，主持人继续追问，Eric开始回答第一次接触羽毛时的感受。Or was it a later project or a moment that you found it? Feather craft. Yes, that was the first interaction. But what if it's not meant to be for you?11.13
95中景
Eric回忆说，拿到鸵鸟羽毛时，发现这完全不符合他的预期。You know, the first interaction with the feathers was when she gave me, she gave me those those ostrich feathers.6.03
96全景
全景展示Eric用手势描述自己当时正在设计项目中，羽毛出乎意料。I was just into my project in a design process, and I thought, well, this is not at all what I was expecting. because obviously I was9.07
97中景
Eric双手在头部两侧比划，解释自己以前对羽毛的常规印象。having the regular vision of what a feather could be so closer to what you see on Indians.6.97
98全景
长镜头
全景下，Eric比划着美洲印第安人头饰或女性的羽毛围巾。You know, like this American Indian or the boa, for the feminine whatever girly thing. And so I was with10.77
99中景
Eric张开双手，形容那些巨大飘逸的鸵鸟羽毛让他感到惊艳。this huge thing floating, like, "Wow, wow, interesting."5.80
100全景
全景镜头，Eric总结说自由和创造力往往源于你所面临的困难。So, well, freedom and creativity comes as well from the difficulty of what you're facing.9.57
101中景
Eric表达如果一切顺利，就会错失发现新事物的机会。If it's all smooth, I think that you're passing opportunity to discover4.80
102全景
全景下，Eric强调如果一成不变，思维就无法创新和进化。new things and be innovative and go further in your mindset. And you never change and you never evolve. So I decided to use those feathers9.53
103中景
Eric坦言自己决定在不懂任何技巧的情况下凭感觉使用羽毛。the way I could without knowing techniques.6.20
104中景
长镜头
全景镜头，Eric讲述进入Lemarié工坊后，导师让他查阅档案。But then when I entered Lemarié, after him seeing my work and asking me to be on his side, reviewing all his archives10.40
105中景
Eric用手势比划，表示导师希望他能给工坊带来新的气象。to renew a little bit, refresh a little bit.3.93
106全景
全景中，Eric解释导师虽然年长，但意识到需要年轻的眼光。He was already an old man, but he had this conscious that he needed a young eye to propose to all these designers that he was working with,8.67
107中景
Eric双手微抬，谈及要向那些时尚大师提供对材料的新理解。all these big masters of fashion, a new understanding of his materials.6.67
108全景
全景镜头下，Eric坦言自己起初并没有意识到被选中是多么荣幸。So I did not realize at first how privileged I was to be picked.3.93
109中景
Eric身体微倾，深刻地表达接受这份文化遗产的重量。To be that person, to receive that patrimony,3.60
110全景
全景中，Eric用手势强调这种文化背景处于一个极高的层次。that cultural background, at that level, because5.37
111中景
Eric双手张开，坦白自己当时根本无法理解这整个实体的规模。I could not understand the scale of...3.73
112中景
全景镜头，Eric继续描述，尽管不了解规模，但他能感到这很契合。...the whole entity, exactly. I had no clue. But yet I could feel it was matching.7.40
113中景
Eric摆弄胸前的装饰花，提到当时身边人都劝他回到爱马仕。And I was already connected to Hermès. Everybody would tell me,5.50
114全景
全景下，Eric模仿别人的语气，大家都认为他不该留在手工艺学校。"You will not go back to Hermès, you will stay with school people."7.07
115中景
Eric双手合十后张开，解释因为当时根本没人了解这门手艺。Beacause nobody knew about this craft.3.57
116全景
全景镜头，Eric指出除了极少数高定圈的人，羽毛工艺不为人知。I mean, except for people in haute couture environment, and the very luxury bubble. Nobody knew.9.30
117中景
Eric双手在身前比划，提到Lemarié先生从不登广告做采访。And Mr. Lemarié was not someone advertising and doing interviews.4.57
118中景
长镜头
全景下，Eric赞赏导师非常谦逊腼腆，始终专注于把工作做好。He was very humble and very shy and always focused on what has to be done, which is make sure that what we do is properly done.11.77
119中景
Eric双手合十，神情庄重地表达对羽毛材料完全的奉献精神。And that is a total devotion to our material.4.00
120全景
全景镜头，Eric转述导师的话：羽毛是自然元素，必须予以尊重。It's a natural element. The first thing he told me is that2.97
121中景
Eric身体微倾，重复导师的教诲：如果不尊重羽毛，就做不成。if I can't show respect for my feathers,4.73
122中景
全景中，Eric讲述自己最初的感受，觉得这种要求很难应对。it won't work. And so my first feeling was just,5.03
123中景
Eric双手合十，坦言面对这种要求确实不轻松。It was not an easy one to deal with,2.83
124中景
全景镜头下，主持人表示理解，Eric则强调能感受到公平的对待。I could imagine. but I could feel the fair treatment.7.63
125中景
Eric双手抬起做抓取手势，描述导师保护员工和技艺的能量。And this energy, to protect his people,4.10
126全景
长镜头
全景中，Eric饱含深情地列举导师所保护的遗产和家族。his savoir-faire, his beautiful feathers. His patrimony, his families.11.27
127中景
Eric指出这种保护精神与他自己的家庭教育非常接近。And this was, for me, very close to my family education.8.17
128全景
全景镜头，Eric表示所以自己最初认可的是这种价值观。So I think I gave credit first to that. Then, I realized that being there after a few months,8.00
129中景
Eric微微倾身，讲述几个月后感觉自己确实来对了地方。I felt like I was in the right place,2.37
130全景
全景下，Eric表达没有其他地方能给他如此美好的综合感受。that no other place would give me this combination of good feeling,5.27
131中景
Eric手势起伏，生动地形容那种感受到愉悦和归属感的状态。pleasure and sensation of4.40
132中景
全景镜头中，Eric总结这种感觉就是“你就在你应该在的地方”。just being where you should be.2.50
133中景
Eric神情专注，强调在那一刻你必须忘掉一切既有的规则。And at that moment, you have to really forget3.57
134全景
全景下，Eric挥动手臂，表示要忘掉别人告诉你的所有社会准则。about all the codes, the social codes that people tell you.6.10
135中景
Eric双手在身前比划，追忆起当年时尚界人们的想法。I mean, even back in the days,1.93
136全景
全景镜头中，Eric说那时所有人都渴望能进入全球知名的大品牌。everybody would have jumped on an opportunity to be better integrated to a big name,4.70
137中景
Eric双手变幻手势，描述知名品牌在全球范围内的代表性地位。already famous worldwide and representing whatever.3.43
138全景
全景下，Eric强调自己却刻意选择了一门身居幕后的手艺。And I was, on purpose speaking, a craft.4.97
139中景
Eric手腕戴着手表，讲述选择手工艺就是选择成为幕后人员。Someone that is meant to be behind the scene.3.50
140全景
全景镜头，Eric双手微抬，表达自己对身处幕后感到舒适自在。And I felt comfortable with that.2.47
141中景
Eric眼神斜视前方，坚定地说虽然别人不理解，但他并不在乎。Nobody understood, but I did not care.1.67
142全景
全景中，Eric自豪地表示自己一直很随性，总是跟随直觉行事。I've always been very spontaneous and following my instinct.7.73
143中景
Eric面带微笑，认为跟随直觉对他的创作很重要。I think it's important.2.10
144中景
全景下，Eric提到导师要求他尊重羽毛，这最终转化成了爱。And then what he was asking me, what was respecting the feathers that became love as well.5.57
145中景
Eric侧头看向斜前方，认为这种爱不是凭空而来的。I think it's something that doesn't come from anywhere.3.77
146中景
全景镜头，Eric强调如果没有敞开心扉、拥抱一切的能力，就无法建立连接。if you can't have this abilitiy3.93
147中景
Eric头部轻微晃动，继续阐述保持开放心灵和灵魂的重要性。to have an open heart, open soul,3.10
148中景
全景下，Eric表示如果能敞开心扉，你与周围事物的联系会更紧密。Then the connection that you will have with anything around you are probably more...5.33
149中景
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Eric双手频繁比划，对比了理性的学习与缺乏情感驱动的状态。you know, studied and a little bit more, less organic and less driven by really your emotional feel. And I know this is in terms of business, not exactly what people want to hear. But as an entrepreneur now,16.67
150全景
全景镜头中，Eric总结作为一个企业家，他认为商业中存在情感的空间。I can tell that there is a place for emotional field. It just needs to have boundaries8.33
151中景
Eric严肃地表示，完全切断情感连接是最糟糕的做法。Cutting with emotions, I think it's the worst thing to do.3.97
152全景
全景下，Eric指出如果只用商业逻辑行事，就等于承认自己被异化。It's admitting that we are only doing with this business articulation.5.90
153中景
Eric轻微晃头，强调必须认识到手艺首先需要建立内在联系。If you acknowledge that what you do is something3.50
154中景
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全景镜头，Eric阐述只有好好完成连接，才能将手艺传承或销售出去。that you have to be first connected with, to make sure that you do it properly, so then you can pass it on to someone else, even by selling it.11.27
155中景
Eric眼神偏移，表示这样人们接收你的作品时会有完全不同的感受。Then people will actually receive what you do in a very different way because they will feel the care.5.57
156全景
全景中，Eric激昂地挥舞手臂，确信人们能感受到你倾注的能量。Yeah, definitely. And they will feel the energy that you put there. Of course they know that you're making money. They know that you have like a business process,8.33
157中景
Eric头部转动，强调虽然有商业目的，但人们能感到你没有失去沟通的本质。but they will feel that you did not lose3.37
158中景
全景镜头下，两人达成共识：工艺依然是一种沟通方式，彼此尊重。the fact that it's still a way to communicate. They respect your craft. And you respect the people.8.00
159中景
Eric双手指向自己，说明手工艺的特殊性在于你是在为他人服务。that you're actually doing the craft for, because the specificity of crafting is that4.23
160全景
全景中，Eric总结手工艺永远不是为了自己，而是为他人提供的服务。it's never something you do for yourself. It's a service you do for someone else. Others, yeah. So you have to acknowledge what you do,8.07
161中景
Eric放下之前摆动的双手，强调你必须认识并尊重自己所做的事。respect what you do.2.50
162全景
全景下，Eric指出除了尊重手艺，还要尊重你面前的人。And and I think respect7.03
163中景
Eric头部轻转，说明这种尊重会把你引向一个截然不同的方向。the person in front of you. And that drives you in a very different direction in the way3.67
164全景
全景镜头中，Eric提到这种态度甚至影响了他管理公司和对待员工的方式。even I manage my company or deal with my the people that works with me.9.00
165中景
Eric用手指向侧上方，讲述自己学到并在意识中逐渐清晰的道理。Because what I learned as well is that,3.77
166中景
全景中，Eric陷入沉思并触碰脸部，准备引出与Lemarié先生共事时的感悟。really that became conscious,1.90
167中景
Eric放下双手，确切地说是在与Lemarié先生共事的那几年里意识到的。when I started spending these years with Mr. Lemarié,2.37
168全景
全景镜头下，Eric坚定地指出：你不能仅靠自己来成就自己。is that you can't build yourself by yourself.5.83
169中景
Eric微微侧头，重申你无法独自达到下一个境界。You will not experiment the next level,1.63
170全景
全景中，Eric向主持人侧身比划，强调那个境界需要他人的知识哺育。the one level where you're fed by2.57
171中景
Eric双手交叠，表示你需要接受从别人那里汲取知识。all the people that you accept to receive that knowledge from3.20
172全景
全景镜头，Eric继续说，同时别人也必须愿意将知识传授给你。and that they accept to give you that too.3.43
173中景
Eric双手伴随动作，解释这是一个互相提升的双向过程。It's elevation. It's a two-way role.2.53
174全景
全景中，Eric表示你可以决定拒绝，但如果你选择接受、分享和给予，那将无比美好。So you can definitely decide not to have it. But if you decide to go for that,8.53
175中景
Eric双手翻飞，赞叹那种互相分享、接受和给予的过程非常美丽。and share, and receive, and give, it's a very beautiful process2.40
176中景
全景镜头下，主持人低头查看手机，Eric表示一旦体验就不想放弃。and you never want to give up with it.2.57
177中景
Eric在黑底白线的屏风前比划，指出这会驱使你以截然不同的方式做事。And it drives you very different way to do your business.2.80
178中景
全景中，两人相对而坐，主持人开始询问Eric与顶级高定品牌的合作经验。Exactly.2.77
179中景
Eric表情专注，准备回答关于如何平衡艺术视野与品牌需求的问题。And you've collaborated with some of the biggest names in couture,3.00
180中景
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全景镜头，主持人列举了香奈儿、迪奥等品牌，询问其合作方法，Eric表示要回到导师Lemarié的故事。So, Chanel, Dior, Vera Wang. How do you approach balancing your artistic vision, with creativity and of each fashion house? Well, again, I'll be back to Mr. Lemarié.16.03
181中景
Eric用手势配合，形容导师Lemarié先生当年真的是手把手带着他。He literally took me by the hand,3.10
182全景
全景中，Eric讲述他清楚记得第一次见伊夫·圣罗兰先生本人的情景，并向员工强调那不是标志而是活生生的人。and I can remember my first meeting with Mr. Saint Laurent himself. And I'm saying the guys, when they come to work with me. I mean, not the logo, the real person.7.07
183中景
Eric双手做出解释手势，向年轻一代强调要认识品牌背后真实的人。Yeah, yeah.2.97
184全景
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全景镜头下，Eric指出年轻人只知纪梵希的标志和T恤，而他却有幸亲见其人。Because the young people, they know Givenchy. But it's a logo, it's a brand, it's a T-shirt, it's a whatever. Well, I got this very specific moment11.77
185中景
Eric继续讲述，自己在这个非常特殊的时刻亲自见到了这些传奇人物。to meet these people in person.2.03
186全景
全景中，Eric感激地表示导师Lemarié就那么带着他这个像学徒一样的孩子去见大师。I mean, Mr. Lemarié just took me with him, as this kid, as this pupil, as this Padawan.4.53
187中景
Eric自嘲当年就像星球大战里的“绝地学徒（Padawan）”。Yes, yes, a Padawan.2.40
188全景
全景镜头，主持人打趣问他现在是否成了“绝地武士”，两人大笑。The Padawan, exactly. Young Padawan. Are you a Jedi now?6.20
189中景
Eric微笑着摊手，谦虚地表示希望自己在成为大师的路上。I hope I'm on my way to. Oh okay.2.33
190中景
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全景中，Eric讲述极度谦逊的导师亲自带着他，明确地向圣罗兰先生引荐他。Very humble. And he took me with him, literally by the hand. And because he chose me, he was totally... And I saw him, it was totally clear and transparent. And said, "Mr. Saint Laurent, this is Eric."17.30
191中景
Eric大幅度手势模仿导师的话，郑重宣告Eric是他决定倾囊相授的人。"This is the person I decided to give my knowledge to."5.73
192全景
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全景镜头下，Eric讲述导师请求圣罗兰先生接纳他，随后他便旁观导师如何与这些时尚巨头（如纪梵希、老佛爷等）交流。"And would you please let me have him with me?" And then I was observing, how you would interfere, interact with them, and how my boss was actually stepping from Mr. Saint Laurent, to Mr. Givenchy, to Karl Lagerfeld, to... Jean Paul Gaultier, to other names that people probably forgot now,29.20
193中景
Eric一边比划一边提到Gérard Pipart，解释当时莲娜丽姿还是一个高定品牌。but that were big like... Gérard Pipart Because at that moment Nina Ricci was a still a couture brand.6.77
194中景
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全景中，Eric列举了导师带他见过的Gianfranco Ferré、Jean-Louis Scherrer等大师，强调没有导师他们就不会办秀，甚至不管当季用不用羽毛都要见他。Gianfranco Ferré. That was in Dior before Galliano. So he was taking me there. Jean-Louis Scherrer. Emanuel Ungaro. And none of these houses would ever make any collection without seeing him. They were seeing all the big masters of crafting in Paris every season, even if they were ending up not maybe working with them.26.63
195中景
Eric解释因为大师们可能这季不用花或羽毛，但依然会见导师。Because maybe this season, no flowers, or feathers or whatever, or no embroidery, but yet4.40
196全景
全景镜头，Eric指出这是一种出于人性的交流，大师们通过与手工艺人共度时光来进行评估和连结。they would never spend the season without meeting them. It was a human thing, something that they were evaluating, spending time with people8.93
197中景
Eric用手指向自己的太阳穴，形容手工艺人需要进入并理解设计师的内心世界。that get in there... to get in their minds.3.97
198中景
全景中，Eric说明为了保持这种连接，他们每年至少要去拜访所有大师两次。and that they needed to keep the connection with, they would never avoid that. So twice a year at least,6.60
199中景
Eric微微自然摆头，确认他们必须定期去拜访所有那些顶尖的设计师。we would go to all of them.3.50
200全景
全景镜头下，Eric回忆自己就这样跟着导师拜访了几个月，直到有一天导师觉得他出师了。And for months and months I went with him until the time that6.57
201中景
Eric重现圣罗兰先生的话：“谢谢你Andre，我也可以继续和Eric合作了。”they said, like, Mr. Saint Laurent one day, "Thank you, Andre." "I can keep on with Eric as well."6.33
202中景
全景中，Eric解释因为圣罗兰先生觉得Eric已经能理解并传达他对系列的想法。Because he felt that I could understand1.60
203中景
Eric头部微偏，讲述自己能够领会大师想要在舞台上展现的作品内涵。what he was going to explain about the collection,1.93
204中景
全景镜头，Eric讲述自己能向团队解释清楚大师希望在舞台上呈现的效果。and I would explain the work you wanted to say on stage.3.13
205中景
Eric侧着头，肯定自己能够胜任沟通大师舞台构想的桥梁角色。And the first meeting,2.47
206全景
全景中，主持人好奇提问：第一次见这些大人物时，是否感到不知所措？was it overwhelming,2.57
207中景
Eric微笑着聆听主持人关于第一次见导师和名流是否震撼的提问。you know, meeting with your mentor, these big names,3.80
208全景
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全景镜头下，Eric大笑着回答说，不知所措是他整个人生的常态，这种感觉一直存在。do you remember the feeling? I do. Overwhelming is, all my life overwhelming. Oh, so it's the constant. It's constant. Because, weirdly enough,15.07
209中景
Eric收起笑容解释，这种不知所措并不是因为对方是重要且著名的名人。It's not because you're meeting someone important and famous.3.80
210全景
全景中，Eric说明原因在于你突然面对一个你绝对不想让他们失望的人。It's just because suddenly you're facing someone that you don't want to disappoint. Yeah, yeah.7.80
211中景
Eric眼神闪动，补充说而且不想让他们失望的人还不止一个。And not only one, too. When I was having Mr. Lemarié with me,4.50
212全景
全景镜头，Eric强调他既不想让导师失望，也不想让面前的设计师失望，所以一直很有压力。I didn't want him to be disappointed. I didn't want the designer to be disappointed.4.57
213中景
Eric微微点头总结，所以那种不知所措和压迫感是每时每刻都存在的。So it was overwhelming all the time.2.17
214全景
全景下，Eric表示但这实际上是促使他专注工作，确保确切理解对方需求的动力。But this is a focus on work and results and make sure that you understand exactly what they want from you.6.87
215中景
Eric微微晃头指出，而且这些大师们的沟通方式往往不在同一个频道上。And they don't speak the same language. All of them.2.67
216中景
全景镜头中，Eric生动地比划说海盗爷Galliano和麦昆都有各自独特的表达方式。You've got Galliano is speaking in a certain way. Alexander McQueen was speaking another way.6.23
217中景
Eric摊开双手，无奈地说有些大师甚至根本就不怎么说话。Some of them were not even speaking.2.97
218中景
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全景下，Eric模仿大师们的语气：“你懂我意思吧？”，但他心里明白对方其实啥也没说，只能靠自己去领会。They were like, "Do you get what I'm saying?" But you did not say much yet. And you're like, okay, "Well, but you see what I mean."12.07
219中景
Eric用手指着太阳穴，强调在这种情况下你最好能自己弄明白对方的想法。You better understand. So you learn to jump in all these people's mind. Yeah.4.17
220全景
全景镜头中，Eric挥舞右手，阐述你必须学着跳进他们的脑海，让他们觉得你与他们同在。And make them feel that when you're with them, You with them. You can't let them even feel that6.63
221中景
Eric整理胸前的花朵饰品，表示甚至不能让大师觉得你还得去伺候其他客户。you have to go with others.4.13
222全景
全景下，Eric坦言大师们其实都知道你有其他客户，但当你们在一起时，你必须全心全意为他奉献。They know when you're with one, you're dedicated. Yeah, dedication.5.27
223中景
Eric顺着主持人的话，点头确认这就是一种专注和奉献的精神。2.70
224全景
长镜头
全景镜头，主持人转换话题，指出Eric是法国仅存的羽毛工匠之一，承担着传承这门濒危手艺的重任，并询问这是否很沉重。You're among the last feather artisans in France, yeah? A living link to an almost vanished craft, an important craft. What does that responsibility mean to you personally? I assume it's very heavy.16.63
225中景
Eric手部自然抬起，准备讲述自己面对这种重任的看法，表示幸运的是很早就意识到了这一点。Well, luckily, Very quickly, when I started,5.63
226全景
全景中，Eric摊手讲述一开始周围人对他做羽毛工艺感到非常惊讶，因为大家都不了解这行。I realized that, of course, everybody around me was surprised that I was working with Mr. Lemarié. No, that you did not know.4.47
227中景
Eric摆动手势，指出在那个时代，如果你没在电视或杂志上出现过，那就无关紧要。If you did not see it on TV, you did not see it on a magazine, it's not important.3.57
228全景
全景镜头下，Eric反驳说，事实上没有哪位顶级高定设计师在办秀前可以不见他的导师。No designer at that level of excellency, like Haute Couture, with ever do any show without seeing him.5.13
229中景
Eric双手交叉挥动，强调他的导师和Lesage先生一样重要。He was as important as Mr. Lesage.4.03
230全景
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全景中，Eric道出区别：Lesage先生经常接受采访上电视，而他生性害羞的导师却从不宣传。But the difference was Mr. Lesage was giving interviews to everybody. He was on TV all the time. Because he has this communication thing. Mr. Lemarié was not like that.13.30
231中景
Eric双手在胸前比划，讲述自己决定要接手并建立羽毛工艺的对外沟通。So I took it over him, and I decided to have his communication on.4.50
232全景
全景下，Eric分享自己当时的想法：“既然你们不懂什么是羽毛工艺，那我就做给你们看。”And I started to think, "Okay, you guys don't know what feather craft is? I'm going to give you what feather craft is."8.03
233中景
Eric眼神斜视前方，表示这让他除了本职工作外还增加了大量的传播沟通工作。And so it was extra work to have all this communication stuff on top of the work.4.03
234全景
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全景镜头，Eric双手夸张地比划，苦笑着说这无形中增加了工作量，让他更加不堪重负。So I had... I increased the job and now overwhelming myself, even worse.14.33
235中景
Eric双手摊开，欣慰地表示结果是终于吸引了更多年轻人对这门手艺产生兴趣。But the result was that I finally got more young people to get interested in it. And we received more interns.5.53
236全景
全景中，Eric骄傲地宣称，自己的努力让这门手艺获得了前所未有的关注，摆脱了消亡的命运。And I'm very proud to say that, the work I did, brought people to much more, a level of interest never experienced before for that craft. And now, we're no longer vanishing.2.10
237中景
Eric双手先交叠后摊开，自豪地表示现在各个层面上都有许多人在从事羽毛工艺。There are so many people that work on the feathers, at any level.2.63
238全景
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全景镜头下，Eric表明自己现在的责任是为那些渴望达到卓越的人敞开大门，至于其他人则顺其自然。I'm trying in my responsibility to make sure that the ones that want to reach excellency, can always have my door open. The others, they do what they want.23.70
239中景
Eric手势起伏，指出自己现在的重要责任就是去指引那些追求极致工艺的人。5.77
240中景
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全景中，主持人提到Eric刚才讲的天使画作的故事是个很好的比喻，并询问天使意味着什么。So you introduced the angel painting you saw the church to these people, as in... This analogy. Yes, it's a good analogy. Not always by talking about the story, but by, I mean, what is an angel?28.07
241中景
Eric神情认真，回答说天使是那个关心你、保护你的人。It's someone that cares. Someone that would protect you,3.87
242全景
全景镜头，Eric继续说天使是那个帮助你前进并指引你的人，这正是他努力想扮演的角色。someone that help you to go forward, guide you. So that's what I'm trying to do7.43
243中景
Eric举起右手，表示他正努力像过去那些指导过他的前辈和导师一样去指引别人。as all these guys, all these mentors I had.3.97
244中景
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全景中，Eric深情回忆他的导师们（如Nagler先生、Galliano等）后来不仅是导师，也成为了朋友。They all became not only mentors, sometimes they became friends, like Mr. Nagler, Galliano, The relationship we have and we developed is not only special,14.60
245中景
Eric双手戴着饰品，强调他们之间建立的联系极其特殊且是他的特权，导师们一直在保护他。but it's privileged. And they've protected me, they helped me be confident,6.70
246中景
全景下，Eric感激地表示前辈们帮他建立自信，相信自己的远见和创造力，同时确保他能理解他们的需求。trust myself, trust my vision, my creativity, yet making sure that I was understanding what they needed.8.03
247中景
Eric双手在胸前比划，指出这些大师让他明白，无论你是谁，都不存在孤独的工作者。But these guys made me understand as well that whoever you are, they all made me understand that there's no such thing as a lonely worker,5.20
248全景
全景镜头，Eric双手并用，表达承认自己需要他人的支持才能继续前进是一种高贵的品质。And it's noble to acknowledge that you need others to keep going.9.03
249中景
Eric双手在胸前做出说明的手势，补充说承认需要他人的支持。3.20
250全景
全景中，主持人附和说承认需要支持也是需要勇气的，Eric点头并在思考后回答。And it takes courage as well, to say you need support. Well, you know, when you actually know it.9.17
251中景
Eric坐在黑色沙发上，深刻地指出“勇气”只适用于那些觉得必须证明自己可以独立完成更宏大事业的人。Courage is for people who thinks that sometimes they have to prove, and that they, maybe would have it bigger, by being by themselves.3.20
252全景
全景下，Eric向右侧偏移头部继续说，如果不与人分享，这蛋糕做得再大又有什么意义。But what is bigger, if you have the whole cake by yourself?4.03
253中景
Eric面带微笑，充满生活智慧地说，关于蛋糕最美好的事就是把它分享出去。The good thing about a cake is to share.4.03
254全景
全景中，两人相视大笑，主持人幽默地提起他们晚餐时分享提拉米苏和焦糖布丁的事，氛围极其融洽。Hey, we share tiramisu and creme brulee. But it's funnier, that you're like, lonely, eating the whole thing. Oh, hey, you stuffing yourself. Well, whatever. We had this conversation during dinner, like...3.07
255中景
Eric右手抚在胸口的花饰上，因为花饰动了一下，他幽默地惊呼它活了。She's moving. She's alive!2.40
256中景
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全景镜头下，Eric借着花饰动了的插曲，感叹“这就是生命”，并指出很多人觉得羽毛有点病态，以为那是死物。Alive! That's life! We've built life. I mean, a lot of people felt that feathers are kind of morbid. Because they think that it's a dead animal.15.87
257近景
Eric举起双手反驳，坚决否认羽毛是死去的动物。Uh-uh!3.67
258全景
全景中，Eric充满激情地声明，羽毛绝对是最鲜活的元素，它永远不会死。Feathers are definitely the most alive element, never dies. So this is life.5.73
259中景
Eric整理胸前的花朵，再次感叹羽毛展现的就是生命力。3.27
260中景
全景镜头，Eric收束话题，谈到自己的责任就是向世界展示如何与这些元素合作。And in my responsibilities that we were talking about, is to show how we can work. It's not technically only,6.63
261中景
Eric神情专注，解释说这不仅仅是技术层面的展示，更是关于意识的传达。it's as well as in the consciousness of these kind of topics,2.63
262全景
全景下，Eric列举了这门手艺涉及的深刻主题，如自由、生命、运动和维度。like freedom, life, motion, dimension.4.07
263中景
Eric右手轻抚胸花，表示如果羽毛完全扁平、失去纹理，或者只用单一类型的羽毛，那就失去了灵魂。Having feathers completely flat, under fabric with no texture, or maybe only one feather type, or whatever.4.43
264全景
全景中，Eric比划着手势，解释他所说的“做得差”是指那些像工业模式一样千篇一律的设计。And cut like... When I say poorly done, it's that just all the same with a pattern.3.60
265中景
Eric微微摇头，批评那些千篇一律的模式完全背离了自然法则。This is so away from what nature shows on an everyday basis.6.47
266中景
全景镜头下，Eric阐释大自然每天都在向我们展示着真正的完美与美感。There is the perfection that you see and that you can feel. The actual beauty notion4.23
267中景
Eric双手轻抚脸颊，表达人类内心对于美的真正概念，源于对大自然的观察，并承认完美之中也包含着不完美。in our minds as human beings is within this observation of nature and is acknowledging that perfection is within imperfection as well.3.77
268中景
全景中，主持人开启新话题，询问科技（从设计工具到数字存储）是如何影响Eric的创作过程的。And I know with technology, you know, it's shaping every creative field to a certain extent, from design tools to digital storing. How has it changed your process or the way you approach your art?7.80
269中景
Eric微微颔首，表示科技一直让他着迷，并提到他的父亲曾从事计算机相关工作。Technology has always been a fascination to me. My father was working on computers.2.27
270中景
全景镜头，Eric讲述他父亲是巴黎证券交易所最早使用计算机并将其从传统人工喊价系统转型为现代编码系统的那批人。He was part of the first people that were, you know, the stock exchange in Paris, when they took it from the very old-fashioned system with all the guys shouting, and he was like, coding, to transform it into what it is now.4.13
271中景
Eric比划着手势，解释他从小就见证了第一台计算机的出现和计算机技术的不断演进。And so, very young, I remember the first computer, and I have the tracking process, of all the evolution of the computer.5.63
272全景
全景下，Eric右手一挥，激动地提到随后出现的手机让他觉得非常疯狂和不可思议。And then the phone. The phone, I'm telling you, that was crazy.8.33
273中景
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Eric双手平伸，认为手机和互联网是他在接触科技的经历中两个最重大的时刻。I think handphones and the internet, these two things were the two major moments in my life,10.63
274中景
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全景镜头中，Eric解释由于父亲的工作，他对计算机比较习惯，但手机和互联网的普及则带来了完全不同的震撼。in terms of contact with technology. Even more than computers, because computers, because of my dad's work, I was quite used to it.14.07
275中景
Eric用手势强调，互联网和手机的突然普及，让每个人都能在日常生活中使用它们，这是非常疯狂的改变。But then, suddenly the internet and handphone, was something for everybody, on a everyday base. And that was crazy!6.27
276中景
全景下，Eric感慨在他年轻的时候，根本无法想象有一天每个人口袋里都会装一部手机。I mean, when I was young, as a teenager, nobody would ever imagine that we would eventually have a phone in our pockets one day.6.77
277中景
Eric用手势比划着手机，惊叹通过这部手机你可以给世界上任何地方的人写信。And a phone that you can actually write a letter to someone anywhere in the world,3.70
278中景
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全景镜头，Eric继续描述写信不再需要丢进物理邮筒，瞬间就能送达，打破了物理介质的束缚。and that it would receive right away without posting it in a mailbox. Bounded by physical mediums.10.27
279中景
Eric轻笑，回忆起第一次在学校听女朋友提起互联网时，他还以为她在开玩笑。But the first time I heard about the internet, was from a girlfriend of mine back at the school. I thought she was joking.2.07
280全景
全景中，Eric讲述当时听到可以通过电脑获取所有书籍的信息，完全无法理解那是什么概念，觉得极其震撼。She was actually explaining the internet, kind of. I was like, "What is she talking about?" She think that we were going to have access to all the books everywhere. Just looking at the computer, where did that come from. No, so it was a real shock.7.17
281中景
Eric摊开手，表示随后出现的智能手机也是同样的震撼，但最重要的是我们作为人类选择去看什么、有能力看到什么。And then came the smartphone. Woah. But actually, I think that the most important is still what we decide to see, what we're able to see.1.60
282全景
全景镜头下，Eric深刻地指出，如果我们自身不参与其中，技术就什么也做不了，它永远无法替代人类的创造过程，技术只是一个工具。Technology can't do anything if we're not with it, so it can't replace for me, what we are able to do as a creative process. It's a tool. And the more efficient the tool is, normally, the more efficient our creativity will be.4.60
283中景
Eric严肃地表示，如果妄想创造力能单纯由科技自身产生，那方向就完全错了。But if we fancy thinking that the creativity will come from technology on itself, for me it's a wrong direction. Yeah.1.80
284中景
全景中，主持人提到前一天令人印象深刻的一个时刻：Eric在使用OPPO手机的长焦镜头配件时，被画面细节深深激发了灵感。I remember one moment yesterday that struck me was when you were using this toy, the teleconverter kit. One of the pictures, you felt inspired by the picture and because of the details. Yeah. You always pay attention to detail. So that struck me. That's exactly what I'm saying is that, exactly,4.27
285中景
Eric表示赞同，指出技术就是用来帮助你的新朋友，能让你看得更快，看到平时肉眼看不见的东西。the technology is there to help you. It's a new friend, to help being faster, seeing things that we don't see normally.2.07
286全景
全景镜头下，Eric进一步举例，虽然人类现有的视觉已经很棒，但有些动物能看到更精准、更多维的画面，而现在有了新技术的加持，人类也可以突破限制进入事物的细节中。Like I was talking about abilities, some animals can see so precisely everything. They can see in dimension, they can... Well, we have this human vision that is already quite great. And suddenly we have this technology we can put on, to get into things.4.87
287中景
Eric兴奋地用手在眼前比划，表示昨天用那个配件观察时，那种变成另外一个人、看到平时看不见的微观世界的体验让他极其疯狂和着迷。And yesterday with this scope, that was crazy. I could stay like hours and hours and hours because it's like becoming someone else.3.07
288中景
全景中，Eric清醒地补充，但他并不指望镜头代替他完成工作，因为“看”和进行创作提取，依然是人类必须亲力亲为的事。But I'm not expecting the scope to do the work for me. You still have to do the work. Yes, I still have to look.3.70
289中景
Eric双手向两侧微抬，觉得很有趣的一点是：即使我们身处同一时刻、看着同一场景，不同的人由于其独特的人性，看到的焦点也全然不同。这就是人类各具专长和美妙的地方。And it's funny how we live the same moment, we don't look at the same things. Or we even sometimes look at the same scene, but we don't see the same things. So it's actually showing that it's not the tool that will do the work. Everyone has their specialty and specificity. And the way we interfere with things... It's the beauty of being human. That's the beauty of life.3.57
290全景
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全景镜头下，主持人引出Eric的名言“做梦不是谎言”，询问为什么这个理念对他的哲学如此重要。Eric回答，首先要明确技术本身是没有原罪的。Singularity was in unicity. Yeah. Touched me. Now, you've said that dreaming is not a lie. Why is this idea so central to your philosophy? I think that technology is never to be blamed.12.10
291中景
Eric双手交叉置于胸前，表情严肃，指出真正有争议的，是我们作为人类选择如何使用技术。What can be controversial is what we do with it. What we choose as human being to do with technology.4.30
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全景中，Eric再次肯定人类创造并建造这些新技术的非凡能力，这顺应了人类作为创造性物种的本性。It's extraordinary that we are able to build these things now. And whatever we do is wonderful. It's just going with what we are as human being, a creative species. Not all the species can do that. We are very specific on this planet.4.07
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Eric双手交握，补充说但怎么运用这份创造力是我们的自由选择，这造就了差异。But what we do with it is our choice and it's different.4.27
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全景镜头下，Eric详细阐释：一方面，在脑海中有变好、成为不同自我、展现多面性的愿望，这是人皆有之的；另一方面，将这种不存在的虚幻投射成伪装的“现实”，则是另一种选择。这也是为什么他有时对社交媒体的使用方式感到困扰。So what I mean by that is that Having in your mind a will, a wish, to be better, to be something else, to show facets that you don't show all the time, that's one thing. Transform all this into a reality, that doesn't exist and pretend that it is the truth. That's another choice. And that's why sometimes I have a hard time with the way we use technology, and specifically social media.7.63
295中景
Eric单手指向太阳穴附近，警示社交媒体容易让人从“梦想”直接跳跃到自欺欺人的“我正在做梦”和“这就是我”的幻境中，即便那根本不是真实的。Because this can bring you to literally jump from dreaming, and say you're actually dreaming, and say, "Look, what is my dream?" to, "Look, this is me." But you know it's not true,1.70
296中景
全景中，Eric重申技术只是一个帮助你的工具，永远不能将责任归咎于技术本身，使用者才是最终的决定者。but this helps you doing it. Again, technology is never to be blamed. You're the one deciding for what you're going use this technology for.4.50
297中景
Eric目光柔和且深情地期盼，希望有一天人类能共享这份善意，用一种更好的、温柔且充满爱的方式共存。And one day I wish that we all can actually share the same will to have it be just like a better way to be together and be generally gentle, honest, and loving to each other.2.17
298全景
全景镜头下，Eric笑称这听起来可能有点傻，但主持人坚决否认。Eric随后用幽默但富有哲理的口吻举例，人生苦短，人们只应共享美食，甚至根本不该让“难吃的食物”存在。I know it sounds a bit silly. No, it's not silly. But obviously it's not silly. You know, people just need to eat good food with each other. Life's too short to eat bad food. Exactly. We should not even find bad food. When you think about it, Why would we do bad food?7.80
299中景
Eric双手交叉紧握，从人类学角度指出，人类社会和文化发展中那些显而易见的常识，比如“与人为善”和“团结就是力量”，往往是我们最容易遗忘的真理，因为我们自以为熟知，却从未真正践行。因此，他极度迷恋在复杂精妙的生活中寻找那种简单、纯粹且合一的“常识”。Sometimes, you know, the obvious, in terms of notion, in anthropology. If you look at how we develop ourselves, the culture, the society, the group, obvious notions, like being good to others. Yes. Remember that together we're stronger. Yes. All this are the notion that we forget the quickest. Because we are so sure that we know them, that we don't even see that we don't apply it. So that's why I'm so obsessed with the obvious. Because of the simplicity of it, within the sophistication and the complexity of life,2.00
300中景
全景镜头中，Eric总结大自然的原则永远是如此简单，所以会有波浪的不断重复；这并不无聊，反而在其复杂性中展示了深刻的独一性和统一性。its principles are so simple all the time. And that's why we have repetition. It's not boring, it just showing unicity, unity and simplicity, that you can find within complexity and sophistication. Like looking at waves. None of the waves that you will be looking at will be the same. Just like feathers. But yet, you'll be seeing the same process repeated and repeated and repeated forever. Yes. And that's not boring.3.17
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主持人顺着波浪的比喻，提议一起去看看真正的海浪，为产品发布会做准备，Eric欣然同意。主持人感谢Eric的分享，并做结束语。Shall we go check some waves for the product launch? We can do that. Lovely. Yeah. Eric, thank you for sharing your story and vision with us. Thank you. And that's it for this episode of "On the Spot with OPPO." Stay tuned for more inspiring conversations and... And go OPPO! This is just a crazy creative product. Make it the best of your life. Because that can help. Like Make Your Moment. Oh yes, Make Your Moment. I loved that when I saw the first part. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but. And I think yesterday I showed you. Yeah, we made it the whole movie for sure. Thank you, Daniel. Thank you, Eric.10.90
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在纯黑色的背景下，画面正中央静止显示白色的 OPPO 品牌标志。8.03
303中景
一名身穿黑色无袖上衣、佩戴墨镜的深色皮肤男性坐在深色沙发上。他胸前别着一朵巨大的白色立体花朵装饰，正在说话并伴随手势。背景墙面上装饰有波浪线条纹理的屏风或壁纸。3.70
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在充满东方韵味的室内空间中，一名身穿黑色无袖上衣、佩戴墨镜及白色胸花的非裔男士坐在左侧深色沙发上，正面对着镜头右侧身穿白色衬衫的男士交谈。非裔男士在交谈过程中伴随手势动作，并偶尔低头或看向对方。右侧男士双手握着手机，专注地倾听。两人中间有一盏造型圆润的台灯，背景是带有波浪纹理的屏风和深色帘幕。7.90
305中景
一位佩戴墨镜、穿着黑色无袖上衣（胸前别有大型白色花朵装饰）的男性主体，坐在黑色沙发上接受访谈。背景墙面上有波浪纹理的装饰画。主体在说话时右手自然抬起做手势，神情专注。4.90
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室内中式设计风格的环境中，两名男性面对面坐着进行交谈。左侧男性身穿黑色无袖上衣，胸前佩戴白色花朵装饰，戴着墨镜；右侧男性身穿白色衬衫，手持一部折叠屏手机，正在讲话并辅以手势。两人中间背景处有一盏发光的半圆球型台灯，墙面装饰有山脉线条画。11.23
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一名肤色较深、戴着墨镜、穿着黑色无袖背心的男子坐在深色沙发上。他的背心左胸处别着一朵白色花卉装饰。他面带微笑看向斜前方。背景是带有波浪纹路装饰的墙面。1.87
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室内访谈场景，左侧男士身着黑色无袖衫，胸前佩戴白色装饰花朵，戴着墨镜坐在黑色沙发上倾听；右侧男士穿着白色长袖衬衫和黑色长裤，坐在浅灰色扶手椅上，手中拿着两部手机，一边比划手势一边交谈。两人中间有一盏造型独特的发光台灯，背景是带有波浪纹理的屏风和深色窗帘。14.07
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一名肤色较深的男性戴着深色墨镜，穿着黑色无袖背心，胸前别着一朵巨大的白色立体装饰花朵。他正坐在黑色沙发上进行谈话，背景是带有黑色海浪线条纹理的米白色背景墙。光线从斜前方射入，在其脸上留下明显的阴影。5.27
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室内中景。一名戴墨镜、身穿黑色无袖上衣、胸前戴着白色花朵装饰的黑人男子坐在一张黑色长椅上，正配合手势与对方交谈；另一名身穿白色短袖衬衫、黑色长裤的亚裔男子坐在对面的灰色单人沙发上，手里拿着手机，身体略微前倾，专注地听着对方说话。两人中间有一个造型独特的圆盘状台灯，背景是带有水墨山水画图案的屏风。整个空间光线柔和，呈现出商务访谈或高端对话的氛围。10.90
311中景
一名肤色较深的男士坐在一张深色沙发上。他戴着墨镜，穿着黑色无袖背心，胸前别着一朵巨大的白色花形装饰，左手腕戴着手表。背景是绘有波浪纹理的屏风或墙面。他一边说话一边做出摊开双手的姿势。3.83
312中景
在一个中式简约风格的室内，两名男子相对而坐正在交谈。左侧的黑人男子穿着黑色无袖上衣，戴着墨镜，胸前装饰有白色花朵，他正手舞足蹈地表达观点；右侧的亚裔男子穿着白色长袖衬衫，坐姿端正，手中拿着一部深色手机正在倾听并偶尔低头查看手机。两人之间有一盏造型独特的台灯，背景是绘有山水纹理的屏风。9.13
313中景
一名佩戴墨镜、穿着黑色无袖上衣且胸口点缀白色大花朵装饰的男士，坐在一张深色沙发上。他背景是一面带有波浪线条纹理的浅色背景墙。在交谈过程中，他伴随手势动作，先是抬起右手在胸前和脸部周围比划，随后展开左手示意。5.57
314中景
长镜头
在一个装饰典雅、带有中式山水屏风背景的室内，两名男子相对而坐进行交谈。左侧男子身穿黑色无袖上衣，佩戴墨镜，胸前点缀白色花朵装饰，他在说话时伴有丰富的手势动作；右侧男子穿着白色长袖衬衫和黑色长裤，手中拿着类似手机或小型平板的设备，身体略微前倾，专注地倾听并观察对方。两人之间有一盏造型圆润的台灯。12.93
315中景
一名身着黑色无袖上衣、胸前别着白色立体装饰花朵、戴着墨镜和金属手镯的深肤色男子，坐在绘有波浪线条装饰的背景墙前。男子在说话时双手比划手势，随后将手放下。4.37
316中景
长镜头
在充满东方韵味的室内，两名男性相对而坐进行访谈。左侧黑人男性身着黑色无袖上衣，胸前佩戴白色胸饰，佩戴墨镜，在交谈中手势丰富；右侧亚裔男性身着白衬衫，手持移动设备聆听，背景是有山水线条的屏风和一盏造型简约的台灯。12.20
317中景
一名深肤色男子，戴着墨镜，穿着黑色无袖背心，胸前别着一朵巨大的白色丝质花朵装饰。他坐在一张深色沙发上，背后的墙面上有波浪纹理的装饰画。他侧过头看向斜前方，似乎正在进行访谈或交谈，在说话过程中伴随有右手抬起的动作。4.13
318中景
长镜头
在一个室内环境中，两名男士相对而坐进行交谈。左侧男士身穿黑色无袖上衣，胸前佩戴白色花朵装饰，戴着墨镜，正倾听对方说话。右侧男士身穿白色短袖衬衫，手持手机并低头看向屏幕。背景是一个屏风，上面有波浪纹理，两个座位之间有一盏极具设计感的圆形台灯。11.20
319中景
长镜头
一名肤色较深、戴着墨镜的男子坐在黑色沙发上接受采访。他穿着一件黑色无袖上衣，胸前别着一朵巨大的白色立体花朵装饰，左腕戴着银色手表，手指上戴有醒目的戒指。背景是带有波浪线条纹理的浅色墙面。男子在说话时频繁使用手势动作来辅助表达。11.80
320全景
长镜头
室内采访空间，左侧一名戴墨镜、身着黑色无袖装的黑人男性坐在深色沙发上，胸前别着白色花朵装饰，正张开双臂配合手势进行交谈；右侧一名身穿白色衬衫、黑长裤的亚裔男性坐在浅灰色单人椅上，双手握着手机，专注倾听并看向左侧。背景是带有波浪纹样的屏风和一盏发光的蘑菇造型地灯，整体光线柔和。22.20
321中景
一名佩戴墨镜、穿着黑色无袖上衣、胸前别着白色大型装饰花的男士坐在沙发上交谈。背景墙上绘有波浪线条纹理。他言谈时伴随着丰富的手势，左右手轮流做出捏合、展示及摊开的动作，腕间可见金属质感手表。4.83
322全景
在一个室内环境中，两名男性相对而坐进行交谈。左侧的男性身穿黑色无袖上衣，胸前别着白色装饰花朵，戴着橙色透明墨镜，正在边说话边做手势；右侧的男性身穿白色长袖衬衫和黑色长裤，双手拿着一个小物件（疑似手机或遥控器）坐在浅色单人沙发上认真倾听。背景中有一个半球形的台灯和绘有山水线条的屏风。7.80
323中景
一名肤色较深的男士戴着墨镜和手表，胸前佩戴着一朵巨大的白色花朵胸针，穿着黑色无袖背心坐在黑色沙发上。他背景是带有波浪纹理的屏风。镜头中他正举起左手进行表达，右手偶尔触碰胸前的花朵，同时面带表情在说话。6.17
324全景
在室内访谈场景中，一名穿着黑色无袖上衣、佩戴墨镜和胸花的黑人男性坐在左侧沙发上，一边说话一边打着手势；一名穿着白色短袖衬衫的亚洲男性坐在右侧扶手椅上，手里拿着平板电脑，专注地听着对方讲话。两人之间有一盏发光的台灯。背景墙上有山水线条纹样，右侧有深色帘幕。6.37
325中景
一名肤色较深、戴着墨镜的男性坐在黑色沙发上进行访谈。他穿着一件黑色无袖上衣，胸前别着一朵巨大的白色花朵装饰，左手腕戴着一块方形手表，双手佩戴多枚显眼的戒指。背景是一面带有波浪纹路装饰的浅色墙壁。在交谈过程中，他双手张开并在胸前挥动以配合言辞，神情投入。4.17
326全景
长镜头
室内中式现代风格背景前，两名男士正在进行访谈。左侧是非裔男士，身着黑色无袖背心，胸前佩戴白色花朵装饰，戴着墨镜，正在配合手势激昂地讲话。右侧是亚裔男士，穿着白色衬衫，双手交叠放在腿上，认真倾听。两人相对而坐，中间有一盏圆盘状的艺术地灯，背景是水墨山水风格的屏风。15.43
327中景
一名深色皮肤的中年男性坐在室内沙发上。他戴着墨镜，穿着黑色无袖背心，胸前别着一朵巨大的白色立体花朵装饰。他身后是绘有黑色线条波浪纹路的屏风或背景墙。他在说话，并在镜头末尾向右侧（画面左侧）转头。3.37
328全景
长镜头
室内采访场景，两名男子相对而坐。左侧是一名黑人男子，穿着黑色无袖上衣，胸前别着白色花朵饰品，戴着墨镜，他正情绪激昂地说话并伴有大幅度的手势动作。右侧是一名亚裔男子，穿着白色长袖衬衫和黑色长裤，双手交叠放在腿上，正专注地倾听。背景墙上有山脉线条的装饰，两人中间有一盏暖黄色的台灯。12.93
329中景
一名扎着细辫、戴着墨镜的黑人男子穿着黑色无袖上衣，胸前别着一朵白色羽毛装饰花。他坐在黑色沙发上，背景墙面印有波浪纹理，正在对着镜头说话。1.93
330全景
在装饰典雅的室内空间，两名男子相对而坐。左侧是一名深色皮肤男子，佩戴墨镜，身穿黑色无袖上衣，胸前装饰有白色花朵，他正在说话并配合手势；右侧是一名亚洲男子，身穿白色衬衫，手持移动设备，正注视着对方倾听。两人中间有一盏造型独特的台灯，背景是带有山水纹样的屏风。7.73
331中景
一名深肤色男子佩戴墨镜，身穿黑色无袖上衣，胸前别着一朵巨大的白色花卉装饰，坐在一张黑色的沙发上进行谈话。背景是一面带有波浪纹样装饰的墙壁。6.00
332全景
室内采访场景。左侧坐着一位戴着墨镜、身穿黑色无袖上衣（胸前有白色装饰花朵）的黑人男性，他正配合言语做出明显的手部动作；右侧坐着一位身穿白色长袖衬衫、手持深色物体的亚裔男性，他正全神贯注地看着对方。两人中间是一盏造型独特的暖色调台灯，背景是带有山脉纹理的屏风。整个空间光线柔和，氛围严肃而专注。8.73
333中景
一名肤色较深的男子，戴着墨镜，穿着黑色无袖上衣，胸前别着一朵白色羽毛装饰花。他坐在黑色沙发上，背景是带有波浪纹理的屏风。他正侧着头说话，呈现出访谈的状态。3.57
334全景
长镜头
在一个中式极简风格的室内环境中，两名男士相对而坐进行访谈。左侧男士身穿黑色无袖上衣，胸前佩戴白色花朵装饰，戴着墨镜，正在边说边辅以手势。右侧男士身穿白色短袖衬衫，坐姿端正，手中拿着一个黑色的电子设备，在倾听对方说话时偶尔点头回应。两人中间放着一个扁平圆顶造型的台灯，背景是绘有山水线条纹理的屏风。15.67
335中景
一名穿着黑色无袖上衣、佩戴墨镜的深色皮肤男性坐在沙发上说话。他的衣服胸前别着一朵巨大的白色花卉装饰。背景是带有波浪纹理装饰的墙面。3.07
336全景
在光线柔和的室内，左侧一名身着黑色无袖衫、配戴墨镜和花朵饰品的黑人男性坐在深色沙发上，他正在说话并带有丰富的手势；右侧一名身着白色衬衫、手持电子设备的亚裔男性坐在浅灰色单人沙发上，微笑注视着对方，呈现倾听姿态。两人之间有一盏发光的碗状台灯，背景是带有山水纹理的屏风和深色窗帘。8.37
337中景
一名戴着墨镜、身穿黑色无袖背心的黑人男性坐在沙发上，他胸前佩戴着一朵巨大的白色丝绸装饰花。他一边说话一边活动着双手，右手戴着一个硕大的银色宽面戒指，左手戴着手表。背景是带有波浪纹样装饰的屏风或墙面。5.27
338全景
在室内访谈场景中，一名身穿黑色无袖上衣、佩戴墨镜的黑人男士坐在左侧沙发上，一边说话一边摆弄手中的小物件；右侧一名身穿白色衬衫的亚洲男士坐在扶手椅上，手里拿着手机，身体略微前倾在倾听。两人中间有一盏暖黄色的台灯，背景是带有波纹图案的屏风和深色窗帘。3.60
339中景
一名戴墨镜的黑人男子穿着黑色无袖背心，胸前佩戴着白色花朵饰品，坐在一张黑色沙发上。他双手抬起在胸前做着手势，背景是具有波浪线条装饰的屏风或墙面。随着镜头进行，他一边说话一边摆动手部。2.87
340全景
室内访谈场景。左侧一名身穿黑色无袖上衣、佩戴墨镜的深肤色男子坐在黑色沙发上，双手在胸前比划，正在交谈；右侧一名身穿白色短袖衬衫、戴着手表的亚洲面孔男子坐在灰色单人椅上，手里拿着一部手机，侧身看着对方并认真倾听。两人之间有一盏发光的台灯。背景是带有波浪纹理的屏风和深色窗帘。5.00
341近景
一名身穿黑色无袖上衣、佩戴墨镜和银色大戒指的黑人男性坐在沙发上。他的衣服胸前别着一朵巨大的白色装饰花。背景是带有波浪纹理装饰的墙面。镜头记录了他一边说话一边抬起双手在脸部两侧比划手势的过程。3.17
342全景
画面左侧是一名戴墨镜、穿无袖黑色上衣并配有白色花朵胸针的男子，他坐在黑色的皮质沙发上，正配合谈话内容挥动手势；画面右侧是一名为穿白色短袖衬衫的男子，坐在灰色的布艺扶手椅上，手里拿着一部折叠屏手机，专注地听对方说话。两人中间有一个暖黄色光泽的台灯。背景是带有水墨山水图案的屏风和深色的窗帘。4.57
343中景
一名身穿黑色无袖上衣、佩戴墨镜和大型白色花朵胸针的男子坐在沙发上。他胸前装饰着一朵硕大的白色羽毛状花朵，手腕上戴着醒目的银色宽手镯。他正在说话，并配合手势动作，背景是一面绘有波浪纹理的屏风或墙面，整体光线较为柔和且带有局部侧光。4.63
344中景
室内环境中，两名男性分别坐在沙发上相对而坐进行交谈。左侧男性肤色较深，穿着黑色无袖上衣、短裤，戴着墨镜，胸前别着白色花朵装饰，正在说话并伴有手势；右侧男性身穿白色短袖衬衫和黑色长裤，手里拿着手机或小册子，正专注地倾听。背景有山脉纹样的屏风、一盏造型独特的台灯以及深色窗帘。2.03
345中景
一名肤色较深的男子，戴着墨镜，穿着黑色无袖上衣，胸前别着一朵巨大的白色花型胸针，正坐在一张深色沙发上侃侃而谈。他的背景是一面带有波浪纹理装饰的浅色屏风或墙面，整体光线柔和偏暖。男子在交谈过程中伴有自然的手势动作，手指上佩戴有显眼的银色戒指。3.63
346全景
在室内访谈环境中，一名穿着黑色无袖上衣、胸前戴着白色装饰花的黑人男性坐在左侧黑色皮质沙发上，他戴着墨镜，正侧身面向右侧，右手在胸前比划手势；右侧一名穿着白色长袖衬衫、黑色长裤的亚洲男性坐在灰色单人沙发上，正专注地看着对方，其手中握着两部深色智能手机。两人中间有一盏圆盘状的暖色台灯。背景是绘有波浪纹样的屏风。9.33
347中景
一名肤色较深、戴着墨镜的男性坐在黑色沙发上进行访谈。他身穿黑色无袖上衣，胸前别着一朵巨大的白色花卉装饰。他右手在胸前做出比划和强调的手势，神情专注且正在交谈。背景是带有波浪纹理装饰的浅色墙面或屏风，整体光线柔和。4.23
348全景
在装饰典雅的室内空间，两名男子相对而坐进行交谈。左侧是非裔男性，穿着黑色无袖上衣、短裤，戴着墨镜，正一边说话一边打手势；右侧是亚裔男性，穿着白色短袖衬衫和黑色长裤，双手握着一部智能手机，认真倾听。两人之间有一盏造型独特的台灯，背景是带有山水纹理的屏风和深色窗帘。7.70
349中景
一名戴着墨镜、穿着黑色无袖背心的深色皮肤男性坐在黑色沙发上。他胸前别着一朵白色装饰花，正在说话并配合手势，双手在身前比划。背景是一面带有波浪纹路装饰的墙壁。2.20
350全景
长镜头
在一个室内中式风格的访谈场景中，左侧一名戴墨镜、穿黑色无袖上衣、佩戴白色花朵胸针的男士正坐在沙发上，双手比划着手势进行讲述；右侧一名身穿白色衬衫、黑长裤的男士坐在一把带有编织靠背的扶手椅上，低头看着手中的电子设备并倾听。两人中间有一盏圆形发光的台灯。背景墙上有山脉波浪纹样的装饰画。10.20
351近景
一名戴着墨镜、身穿黑色无袖上衣、胸前别着白色花朵饰品的深色皮肤男子坐在黑色沙发上，对着镜头说话。他的左手腕戴着手表，右手随着说话内容向前伸出并做出手势。背景是一面装饰有波浪线型图案的屏风或背景墙。2.53
352全景
长镜头
在一个中式简约风格的室内，左侧一名戴墨镜、身穿黑色背心（胸前装饰有白色花朵）的非裔男士与右侧一名身穿白色短袖衬衫的亚裔男士相对而坐进行交谈。两人中间有一盏圆盘状的发光台灯。非裔男士在交谈过程中伴有明显的手势动作，随后双方相视而笑。10.63
353中景
一名深色皮肤的男性坐在一张深色沙发上，面向镜头说话。他戴着浅红色镜片的墨镜，身穿一件黑色无袖上衣，左胸前别着一朵巨大的白色立体装饰花。他背后的墙面屏风上有灰黑色的波浪纹饰。1.50
354全景
长镜头
室内采访场景，左侧是一位戴墨镜、身着黑色背心和短裤的黑人男性，右侧是一位身穿白色长袖衬衫、手持手机的亚洲男性。两人分别坐在沙发椅上，中间隔着一盏造型独特的艺术台灯，背景是带有波浪纹理装饰的屏风和深色窗帘。两人正在进行交谈，亚洲男性在说话时偶尔会低头看手机或看向对方。14.17
355中景
一名肤色较深的男性坐在一张深色沙发上，身穿黑色无袖上衣，胸前别着一朵白色花卉装饰，佩戴墨镜和手表。背景墙上有波浪纹理的屏风装饰。该男子在交谈时双手做出比划的手势，显得情绪较为投入。3.23
356全景
长镜头
在一个装饰典雅、带有中式山水屏风背景的室内空间，两名男子相对而坐进行交谈。左侧为一位深色皮肤、戴墨镜、身穿黑色无袖上衣且胸前有白色装饰花的男子，他手势丰富地在说话；右侧为一位身穿白色长袖衬衫、黑长裤的亚裔男子，他面带微笑倾听，双腿交叉坐着，膝盖上放着手机。两人之间有一盏造型独特的圆形台灯，茶几上放着小型电子设备。22.63
357其他
在纯黑色背景的正中央，静止展示着白色的 OPPO 品牌标志。0.90